but it seems to me, reverend al, here president obama is too young to have paid in the civil rights struggle in america, this is the civil rights issue that he could participate in as a college student and experience the emotion of real-time. >> you know, there's no doubt about it. i think what he said when he made the statement yesterday, that this was the first issue he became involved in because, you know, i grew up in the post-king era. he's a few years younger than me. this was the first thing that colleges, that urban areas, that rural areas want. everyone was saying free mandela and we never seen mandela. when he walked out of the jail and a movement energized by winnie he walked out of there but changed the country from rancor and hostility and said no we're going to reconcile. this became a viable winning tactic in the life of someone like barack obama that i think never left him and i would say helped to lead him towards the kind of change and hope dynamic that he helped to make central in his own political career. so i don't think it's a leap to say the impact that the spirit of m